Odious Quizzes and Scary Tales

It’s not often that I get really stroppy on this site, or indeed anywhere else for that matter, but today I’m abusing my posting schedule in order to have a rant. When I was an undergraduate and a graduate student I spent a lot of time feeling stupid and crushingly inferior. There was always someone in class who had swallowed the French dictionary whole, and lecturers seemed to have read, retained and could quote from, just about any book in the vast European canon. But you know, the years passed, and I settled into my job and it occurred to me that radical lack of self-confidence is neither a good way to teach nor to live. And I realised that if I couldn’t follow something it was because it was poorly explained; there is no concept that cannot be made comprehensible to any lay person, and if it can’t then it doesn’t deserve the name of concept and should go away and make a new life for itself as a painfully complex enigma. Anyhow, this is a long preamble to mitigate what might otherwise look like a highly immodest statement, which is: I don’t feel stupid very often. And then along comes The Sunday Times/Faber Literary Quiz. Fifty teasing little questions that ask you to identify a novel from an obscure detail, and I can’t answer a single one of them.

I’m beginning to wonder what I’ve been reading all my life. ‘Who misses the soup and fish when dining between two regal ladies?’ ‘Who set an ecclesiastical ghost story in another author’s fictional cathedral?’ ‘Who sits in the stalls during a fire in a Belgian theatre?’ ‘Which bongo-playing pastor drives out demons from a family in Cheadle Hulme?’ ‘Which versifying diplomat loses his memory in the Middle East?’ Is it just me? I haven’t got a clue, and couldn’t even make a wild stab. In their non-googleable oddness, there’s no way of looking up the details included in the questions, and tracking the answers down. But I’m also annoyed by the way that there are no limits set around the potential field of books from which the questions are taken, apart from this thing called ‘litt-rar-chure’ that we’re all supposed to recognise. I mean to say, ‘Which surgeon listens to Bach while operating?’ – now surely that comes from a Judith Krantz novel, one in which our ingénue heroine is savaged by crocodiles in a random outback accident, and returns to New York to have her face recreated (by the Bach-playing surgeon) who falls in love with her and they have one of those faintly sado-masochistic marriages that raises her social profile and destroys her morale until she is rescued by a surgeon’s cowboy stepson…. Surely Krantz wrote a novel like that? Or how about this one: ‘Who hates his former manager for taking over his home, firm and daughter?’ Now that must be a Michael Connolly novel, one in which the home, firm and daughter will all shortly be put in grave peril by the actions of a vengeful Mafia boss against the drug-trafficking manager, and our melancholy hero will prove himself the true alpha male by rescuing them all. Or even: ‘Who acts as gracious host to the man who earlier beheaded him?’ Must be Nearly-Headless Nick at Hogwarts – so, a Harry Potter novel, right? Then there’s the blandness of some of the questions: ‘Who motors down to Cornwall in his employers Ford?’ Well, who doesn’t? ‘Which female mill-worker is buried in someone else’s nightcap? Pick a Dickens, any Dickens. I am equally annoyed by the fact that nowhere does it say that any answers will ever be forthcoming, and the prize is £10,000 of Faber books, which the winner will clearly not need, having read everything there is to read already.

I went and had a moan to my husband about this and he of course thought it all very funny. He suggested that the next time I set an examination paper, I should introduce a section of questions just like these to test the student’s in-depth knowledge of their texts. I could well imagine the combination of outrage and completely blank looks I’d receive if I told them all their next exam contained questions like (without specifying the country, century or author) ‘Which novel contains a character who is both criminal and detective?’ or ‘Who has an epiphany listening to a jazz song in a café?’ My husband came out with a whole string of impressively risible questions you could put like ‘Plot the events in Tristram Shandy on a time line’ or ‘Explain what really happens in Nabokov’s Pale Fire’ or, my personal favourite, ‘In which novel can the words ‘ancient spires’ be created out of an anagram of the first letter on each of the first 13 pages?’ Ok, so it’s all supposed to be a bit of fun, but it’s smug, pretentious point-scoring fun that reinforces the idea that literature lovers are an elite bunch conscious of their own superiority.

Ok, I feel better for having got all that off my chest. All it boils down to is that I’m annoyed I can’t answer the questions. If any of you know the answers, fellow litbloggers, you can impress me immensely by letting me know, although I’ve no way of checking and will believe anything you say with sufficient conviction.

To turn to (slightly) calmer prospects, I’m signing up for Carl’s R.I.P challenge, as reading a host of gothic novels will be a fantastic way of doing background reading for the fantasy and dream book. The novels I’m hoping to read are:

Walpole – The Castle of Otranto

Sheridan Le Fanu – Through a Glass Darkly

Jane Austen – Northanger Abbey (a re-read but I love it so)

Ann Radcliffe – The Italian

Gaston Leroux – The Phantom of the Opera

May I also recommend to anyone wondering what to read for this, Maupassant’s Le Horla or any of his flesh-crawling ghost stories, Theophile Gautier’s short stories and Balzac’s The Wild Asses’ Skin which is all about a dangerous magic talisman. Lesser known works but very good ones. I’ve still got a few books left to go on the American reading challenge that I’ve been enjoying so much. I really must read John Irving, Betty Smith and Flannery O’Connor before I get deeply into this. Ah the joy of lots of lovely posts ahead.

50 thoughts on “Odious Quizzes and Scary Tales

  1. Litlove, you made me giggle uncontrollably with your apoplectic rage; I can just see you stomping about your house muttering “who do they think they ARE??” etc. Cheered me up no end, especially as I’m languishing at home today with a rotten cold 😦

    As long as your rants don’t batter you health, keep it up – we all need to vent every so often!

  2. I absolutely love this. First, you apologize in advance for your forthcoming tirade. Then you calmly and rationally, in your typically lovely prose, eviscerate the object of your wrath. I, too, hate those annoying quizzes that prove nothing more than the sadistic cleverness of the quiz makers. The New York Times frequently has something like “What every educated person should know” in their Education Life supplements, and I inevitably prove that I am obviously not at all educated.

  3. Well, I can’t answer any of those questions either. Your post amused me — the whole quiz is absurd and deserving of a rant that’s also amusing — but quizzes like this are worrisome because they imply that what really matters is being able to retain little facts and spout them back, when that’s not what reading is all about! If I weren’t a reader, this quiz would turn me off of reading even more — I’d think there’s no way I could know all that and I’m not even sure I’d want to.

    I can’t wait to hear what you think of the Walpole and the Radcliffe — the Walpole especially. What a wonderful, bizarre, terrible-yet-fun novel!

    I think I love the word “stroppy,” but I can’t say I’ve heard it before — glad to learn some new vocabulary around here 🙂

  4. You picked a fantastic list of books. Through a Glass Darkly and The Italian are both on my wishlist. I really love Phantom of the Opera, especially my Barnes and Noble copy that talks about the history of the Paris Opera house in the foreward. Very cool choice. Glad you’re joining in!

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  6. Your “rant” made me curious enough to look up this quiz, and I have a total of 1.5 answers. It is David Lodge’s Changing Places that an engineer job-swaps with a literature lecturer. And I remember reading the novel in which daughters of a draper marry a window-dresser and a commercial traveller – it is probably a Thomas Hardy novel, maybe a George Eliot one, but is definitely from that era.

  7. Thank God it wasn’t just me – I got the grand total of one, it was a Jane Austen one though I can’t remember which. I was livid that my boyfriend got two! Really, what kind of literary paragon will win?

  8. Well I’m impressed, Hannah and Barry, that you managed to do so well, and very comforted altogether by you and Bikeprof and Dorothy, that I’m not alone in finding these things impossible. I quite agree, Dorothy, that such a quiz would put me off reading entirely if I knew no better, and Bikeprof, for real? ‘What every educated person should know?’ Now, just don’t get me started. Actually I had to laugh, I guess I do start to just slice very finely when things annoy me. I’m loving the R.I.P. challenge, and can’t wait to see how everyone gets on, and Caz, I’m so sorry about your cold! I do hope you didn’t catch it off me on Monday. Very sorry if so!

  9. I’m copying the list of your R.I.P. challenge to look for some of those books. I love gothics. The only Jane Austen book I’ve read is Northanger Abbey and it’s one of my most favorite books.

  10. Iliana, if I could have squeezed them in, I would have added Lewis’s The Monk and Oscar Wilde’s The Portrait of Dorian Grey also. But sense prevailed at the last moment! I’m also delighted to find another Northanger Abbey fan.

  11. Oh, oh, oh, — the daughters who marry the window dresser, that’s that’s, you know, the writer Virginia Woolf calls Mr. Bennett or was it Mr. Brown, no, no, I did read it, it’s the guy who wrote about hotels and …. it’s the novel he didn’t finish… Oh, god, I hate quizzes, I so totally suck at them.

    And the surgeon who listens to Bach, isn’t that Ian McEwan in Saturday — a book I didn’t finish, but I think I got to that point. The thing I hate about quizzes is how insidious they are.

    You are totally right — it’s a sadistic quiz, a nasty, holier than thou, pleasure-free exercise in literary snobbishness and you are utterly right to take it down with a few well written paragraphs.

    Quiz 0, Litlove: 1,000,000.

    And I’m so happy to be reading creepy books in your company.

  12. Bloglily, you are right. Hannah hit on it, the subversion of these quizzes is that literary heavy weights flap whilst shallow partners smugly scoop a point or two from nuggets they gained skim reading classics by the tills in Boarders.

    I probably exasperated this rant by declaring I could do two ! Like Barry, I thought Nice Work by David Lodge fitted the engineer and academic, but litlove ruled it out as they shadowed rather than swapped jobs (he was a manager not an engineer too).

    But
    Which gorgeous African geriatric speaks of dethroning Queen Victoria? Queen Ayesha from She by Rider Haggard. He was an old boy of my school so we ‘did’ him in English. A ravishing, immortal, Amazonian, dominatrix does stick in a 14yr old’s mind. I do remember the school master pointing out that the description of the foot hills they travel through is more evocative of breasts than landscape.

    Tell me I’m wrong so I can rejoin my wife ( and the best of you) on the righteous bottom rung again!

  13. I just looked that quiz up and immediately my panic from taking the literature GRE in high school came roaring back when I completely blanked on how Anna Karenina kills herself.

    You have every right to rant. That’s a ridiculous quiz and I don’t know how it could possibly be decoded. And who is the 16 year old who loses her virginity? I SWEAR I know this one, it’s on the tip of my tonge…
    Great reading list, too!

  14. It’s not just you…I would guess the person who missed the fish and soup might be Bertie Wooster but have no clue what story it would have been in.

    I think I shall email the compilers of the quizz my own quizz. “What is the heroine wearing on page five of the book I’m currently reading?” That’ll show ’em!

  15. Dear Bloglily and Courtney – so glad you agree, and impressed too by what you know!! (Bloglily – you star! But does that mean that Saurday isn’t as good as they hype? I wouldn’t be surprised….) I’m sure if the litbloggers united we’d do it in no time – it’s just that we have better things to do, such as actually enjoying the books themselves. Ms Make Tea – that’s a very good guess, and an excellent form of retaliation!

  16. Yes indeed, we do have better things to do! (Except that amazonian book sounds really fabulous, though probably not scary.)

    You’re right, I didn’t really like Saturday — maybe because he’d returned to a form I don’t care for (that whole violent interruption of what you thought might just be a sort of modern novel of manners) after Atonement, which I did like. Saturday reminded me of Bonfire of the Vanities, another book I couldn’t get through. I suppose it’s because I didn’t sense that either of those books was going to involve a compassionate, or at least honest, dissection of a certain type of upper class life (which I very much enjoy). Instead, both seemed more a glorification of that life while masquerading as an indictment of it, if that makes any sense.

  17. Ah my dear Bloglily, my husband, fine product of the British single-sex education system, finds most things to do with women pretty scary, and kind of fsscinating too. Thank you for your very insightful opinion on Saturday – I understand just what you mean about that mix of glorification and critique. It seems to be a prevalent technique these days, and I don’t much care for it. I haven’t read Atonement, though, and think that would be a much better book for me to choose.

  18. Oh thank God. I thought it was just me, reading the quiz onllne and feeling a dragging impulse to drown myself in my bucket of tea. When I was a child, I was convinced there would come a time when being precocious would translate smoothly to being a well-read grown-up, with my own library (and perhaps a smoking jacket? certainly a fat velvet armchair…and a log fire…and an ever-full box of chocolates). Now I know that the more you read, the more you realise you haven’t read. And that libraries need dusting. Nor can you ever remove chocolate stains from velvet upholstery. However, I’m planning on counter-balancing all the disillusioned ennui and washable slipcovers by not reading the bloody Times.
    (But I’m forced to admit – I did like Saturday. Having ground to a halt, miserably and several times, in both Atonement and Enduring Love – I was startled to find myself romping through Saturday. Perhaps I was just entranced by the concept of an effortlessly faithful neurosurgeon husband and father. Are we sure it wasn’t Judith Krantz writing under a nom de plume? In fact – do you ever see Ian McEwan and Judith Krantz in the same room?)

  19. Wonderful post. And I completely agree with Dorothy about reading and trivia. I hate it when people equate knowledge of trivia (in any discipline, not just literature, but why do literary snobs seem to relish so much in this sort of thing?)with intelligence. Why would one want to try to make others feel woefully lacking in the latter, just because they can’t immediately identify a one-line quote (usually something like “he winced,” and the person throwing out the question can’t BELIEVE you don’t know one of the most important and meaningful two words ever written in the English language) from some book “every educated person should know.” None of that is the point of reading (and loving to read) at all!

  20. I couldn’t resist looking up the quiz either, although I’m rarely any good at such things. Thanks to the Slaves of Golconda, I’m pretty sure that the answer to the question “Who operates on a big cat in the South Seas?” is Dr. Moreau, but otherwise I’m stumped. It’s not really a literary quiz, it’s a literary trivia quiz, and not even a very good literary trivia quiz because the questions are awfully vague. I only enjoy this sort of thing when it has to do with a specific set of books I’ve read over and over again, and for me that generally means childhood favourites. For example, I’ve relished competing with fellow Betsy-Tacy fans in trivia contests. In that context, I actually know the answer to questions like “What dress did Betsy Ray wear to the leap year dance to which she was escorted by Philip Brandish?” I can imagine devoted Sherlockians or Dickens fair folk having fun with trivia quizes tailored to their particular collective obsessions. But as a vehicle to measure general literary knowledge? Absolutely not, for the reasons you put forward, and because, as Dorothy says, it misses the point of literary reading.

  21. I looked at the questions, and they are exasperating. All of them. I count myself as someone who can remember trivia withough much trouble, and carry all that junk in my head, when I would rather get rid of it. Still, I am totally flummoxed. So Litlove, I feel your pain. One of funny questions probably refers to Bertie Wooster, though I wonder if he, or Jeeves ever wore skin-tight Bermuda shorts to a tennis match ;).

  22. Litlove I know exactly how you feel most days I can’t even complete the Guardian’s quick crossword. Sometimes you wonder when all the ‘knowledge’ you gain by reading books is going to actually have a purpose. My conspiracy theory is that the book publishers set out to create obscure questions to make you head off to the bookshop on a guilt trip and buy up their back catalogue. let’s hope we can all enjoy reading and shove the quizzes!!

  23. I hate quizzes like this and can never answer a single question. I always thought I was uniquely thick in this area until I read this post. I’m so glad everyone else feels the same way! Maybe you have smashed a conspiracy here?! Saying that, is the guy who motors down to Cornwall in his employer’s Ford not the butler guy in Kazuo Ishiguro’s Remains of the Day? Was that a Ford? I can’t remember since I read it four years ago when recovering from an operation and was not focussing on fine details such as makes of fictional cars.

    “Plot the events in Tristram Shandy on a timeline,” – that is so funny, I feel like laughing and crying at the same time.

    When I was at university I always felt stupid. I wish I could go back and relive those years as a confident person. I had a terrifying class called “Theories of Literature”, and in every lecture I was lost after the first word. I used to sit dumbstruck in tutorials while other students pontificated intelligently. Finally I decided to approach my tutor. “I’m having trouble keeping up in class,” I said, “I wonder if you could recommend some extra reading for me? I really don’t know what the other students are talking about.” “Don’t worry,” he replied. “Neither do they.”

  24. It depends on the type of memory one has. I am unable to quote anything from any of the many books I have read. The details generally evaporate before I reach the end of a story. I even forget the general plot after a while, until the time comes when I cannot even remember which books I have read and which I had only been contemplating reading. Once I felt a strange sense of dejà-vu all through a novel (was it Patricia Cornwell ?), and I had to query the library database to find out I had in fact already read it not two years before.

    In school, I should have done like Berthold Brecht used to do: legend has it that he made up Goethe quotes. Ghoethe has written so much that no exminer could actually make sure the quote was not real. It takes some skill to get the style right, but it sure is a powerful counter-weapon against nonsensical quizzes and detail-memory exercises.

  25. Odious quiz
    Just found this website, tracking down clues for those damn questions.
    Thankyou, wish i found it earlier, The Monk
    is one of the answers in the quiz.

  26. I’ve just returned from a weekend away to find so many funny and insightful comments! I am glad we’re all agreed – literary quizzes are not for readers – unless, as Kate S. sensibly suggests, they’re made with specialists in mind. Fugitive Pieces – I love the idea that Judith Krantz and Ian McEwan are the same person. I believe that now, and nothing will shake the conviction! Helen – such a funny anecdote about your tutorial group. As a literary teacher myself I can assure you that’s completely true. And Mandarine – I used to have a 7 year rule, that proposed that any book became slush in the mind after 7 years – unfortunately as I grow older, that figure is coming down and down…

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  29. Litlove–You are too funny. I am not even going to look for this quiz. If *you* feel stupid, no doubt I am probably not even spelling my own name right! LOL. Ther person who wins will probably have to cheat anyway… I really want to read Austen’s Northanger Abbey. I thought I read somewhere that it is a satire on Ann Radcliffe’s The Mysteries of Udolpho? Anyway, somewhere I read that you should read the Radcliffe true. Have always meant to do so, just haven’t fitted it in!

  30. You’re right, Danielle, it IS intended as a satire of the Radcliffe novel (which I haven’t read either). I’m sure you’d like Northanger Abbey – reminds me to come and check your R.I.P. list. I’ll bet you’ve picked some crackers!

  31. oh oh, I’ve just remembered one of the ones my boyfriend got – operating on a big cat in the South Seas – isn’t that Life of Pi? on the boat? glad other people do what I do with books they absolutely positively have read but retain no memory of. I’m having to reread An Instance Of The Fingerpost because I remembered the title but had no clue about plot, characters… anything. Turns out it’s good!

  32. I hate quizzes too but am unable to resist at least trying them anyway. Your post made me laugh. I think the twins jumping out of the haggis might be from an Angela Carter novel, Wise Children. Don’t quote me on that though. Perhaps between all of us we could figure out the answers and spilt the prize 😉

  33. The questions in this quiz have gotten harder over the years. 5 years ago I could answer about 8 out of fifty with a bit of thought, and about 15 with others’ help, but this time… 2! Sadly it is the rise of google that makes it so flipping hard and the need for obsurity.

    However, sometimes when you are told the answer you go, yes of course… who misses the soup sitting bewteen two regal ladies? Alice in Through the looking Glass, sitting between the Red and White Queens. Ecclesiastical ghost story? Must be the prolific master of the ghost story MR James who set one story in Barchester Cathedral of Trollope

  34. Ok, that worked: to both answers I said ohhhhhh, of course… And yes, Stefanie, if we keep this up, that £10,000 library of Faber books can be split between, what, 30 or so litbloggers!

  35. It is a tough quiz. It is Ian McEwan’s character Henry Perowne in Saturday who listens to Bach when operating. I thought of Nearly Headless Nick for the gracious host question but I find no reference that the person who nearly beheaded him was ever mentioned in the series.

  36. Beheaded gracious host: The Green Knight from Sir Gawain and the Green Knight.

    Doctor in the South Seas who operates on a large cat: Dr Moreau

    Assasins who argue over a bribery accusation: Cassius and Brutus in Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar

  37. Great list (and I have a book of De Maupassant shorts — in fact, it’s qualified as his DARK short stories). As far as the quiz goes…I suppose you know you’ll have to post the answers at some point, now, don’t you? 🙂

  38. BTW-in case anyone is still unsure–The Monk is the answer to Supernatural 5–carried to destruction by demon. As for the daughters of a draper who marry a window dresser and a commercial traveler–that is Constance and Sophia Baines in Arnold Bennet’s Old Wives Tale

  39. Monarchs 1 – Ayesha – the queen in She by H Rider Haggard.

    Monarchs 5 – Becky Sharp – in, of course, Vanity Fair

    Supernatural 5 – The monk, wasn’t he called Ambrosio?

  40. Oh, and the one about the friar and the garlic lover is Chaucer. Which leads me to guess that the lawyer and the miller are NOT Chaucer, but I can’t really think of any other stories that actually include a miller and a lawyer. :/

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  42. Hi, I have just found you by googling on this quiz. Trust me – getting the answers IS possible – I have been battling with it every august Bank holiday for years! They publish the answers but don’t tell you when.

    Here are some answers – Jobs 3 – Bessie Higgins (North and South Mrs Gaskell) Cemeteries 1 – Harry Lime (Third Man G Greene)Cemeteries 2 Philip Pirrip ( Great Expectations – Dickens)

    Has anyone a copy of The Sandcastle (Iris Murdoch) to check answer to Cars 1?

    Your site is very interesting – I am not sure if i am allowede to contribute but i have tried anyway!

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