I’m sorry to have disappeared abruptly, blogging friends. We went to a wedding in Oxford yesterday, all very lovely, and now I’m back and trying to catch up!
When we were away on holiday, my Dad came back from an outing with a book he’d picked up for me. It was by Alice Thomas Ellis, an author whose fiction I admire very much indeed. But it was a non-fiction book entitled Fish, Flesh and Good Red Herring, which turned out to be a charming and quirkily fascinating culinary history. It is extraordinary to read the things that people have considered to be delicacies over the past few centuries. And I mean, really extraordinary. One section that particularly caught my eye was on the addition of marshmallows to salads in the USA. Can this be for real? Alice Thomas Ellis describes one compilation of American recipes in which, out of 65 salad recipes, three are based principally on lettuce while 25 contain marshmallows, and she draws attention to ‘one twentieth century lady [who] mixes up a packet of orange jello with apple butter, diced celery, diced apple, chopped pecans, marshmallows and a pinch of salt, pours it into a greased mould till it sets, then serves it on a bed of crisp lettuce. :Mayonnaise makes a delightful topping.”’ Eewww! Having lived in France, I find that I do love my salad dressed, and I generally make my dressing up from olive oil, balsamic vinegar, lemon juice and Dijon mustard. My horror was entirely equal to that of Alice Thomas Ellis’s when she came across a recipe that had the ‘effrontery’ to call itself French dressing and that consisted of: ‘a half-can of Campbell’s tomato soup, three-quarters of a cup of vinegar, half a cup Wesson oil, a quarter cup sugar, a tablespoon Worcestershire sauce, three tablespoons grated onion, one tablespoon each salt, paprika and mustard.’ A tablespoon of salt? ‘Shake well. Keeps in the refrigerator indefinitely’ the instructions suggest, to which Thomas Ellis retorts: ‘I bet it does.’ Lest we get too insular and smug, however, she also follows back this tendency to mix sweet and savoury to the time when dried and preserved fruit were first available in England and mince pies were filled with currents and raisins and chopped meat. She recalls also that ‘our ancestors were passionately fond of things that wobbled – junkets and syllabubs and flummeries and jellies – so maybe American cookery is, in a perverted way, more authentically British than our own, which grows increasingly Continental.’
Now I cannot claim to have vast experience of food in America. Whenever I’ve been there, I’ve been trying to adjust my resolutely stubborn time clock to a different time zone without much success. It hasn’t mattered what has been put in front of me for dinner: my stomach has known that it is really 12 o’clock or worse, 5 in the morning, and been less than interested. Breakfast has generally been my most welcome meal of the day and I’ve had lovely breakfasts in the States. And I do remember the food at conferences I’ve been to has been very good. So maybe it’s a 1950s thing, when food the world over seemed to be at a particularly low spot. Britain was still crippled by rationing and food was inevitably dull and tasteless. Bill Bryson, in his memoir of the 1950s, The Life and Times of the Thunderbolt Kid, suggests that food in his family was no better even when unrationed, although he’s clear this is entirely down to his distracted mother. ‘We didn’t call it the kitchen in our house,’ he says. ‘We called it the burns unit.’ His family was ‘radiantly unsophisticated’, and foods like pasta, rice, mayonnaise, corned beef, cream cheese, salami, fish that wasn’t rectangular, curries, enchiladas, sushi, couscous and yoghurt were either unknown to his family table or else were still to be invented. Instead: ‘our meals consisted of leftovers. My mother had a seemingly inexhaustible supply of foods that had already been to the table, sometimes repeatedly. Apart from a few perishable dairy products, everything in the fridge was older than I was, sometimes by many years. […] I can only assume that my mother did all her cooking in the 1940s so that she could spend the rest of her life surprising herself with what she could find under cover at the back of the fridge.’
Of course every nation’s cuisine has some doubtful dishes and some bad days. I’ll never forget my mother letting out a scream of horror at a ferme auberge in France when the waiter proudly lifted the lid on a dish of roast duck with their heads still on. And whilst the meals I ate at restaurants and friends’ houses were uniformly wonderful, the canteen at the collège I taught at was truly awful. There was a particularly gruesome vegetable dish with peas and celery and other unspecified lumps floating in a thin, watery gruel. And lifting up half a very recognizable bunny to find the chips underneath freshly varnished with blood was also an experience designed to turn me off my food. There were some days when I just ate a lot of pâtisserie. I’ll also confess to having my own horror stories in the kitchen, although I do generally like to cook. Puddings seemed to have a fairly high disaster quotient, and on one memorable occasion I decided to make a caramelized apple flan (which I’d done before); it’s a simple recipe – a centimeter or so of demerara sugar in a cake tin, sliced apples laid over the top and then a shortcake base, all baked in the oven and turned upside down to serve. Only I’d baked it in a cake tin with a removable base, so my molten sugar had seeped out and was coating the bottom of the oven instead. We actually moved house not long after that one; it seemed the easiest thing to do. My most humiliating experience however, was when my husband invited an American friend of his over for dinner one evening when his wife and children were back in the States. The meal I cooked was fine, perfectly edible, but it just wasn’t particularly good; it was one of those occasions when nothing had turned out exactly as I’d hoped. After we’d finished eating I happened to ask the friend what his wife did, and he replied ‘She’s a professional chef.’ I chokingly declared that I would never have cooked for him if I had known that, but now on reflection, I can see that what I really needed was a recipe for a salad, something in jello with mayonnaise on top that couldn’t possibly turn out wrong, something I could have prepared in advance, and something to remind him of home. I doubt that he’ll ever come to dinner again, but if he does, the next time I’ll be ready for it.


Just so you don’t think we’re all culinary cretins here in the U.S., yes, jello salad was definitely a 1950s and 60s kind of thing! You know, when housewives were looking for really convenient food and nobody thought about nutrition (or even taste, it seems to me). Yikes, sounds terrible, doesn’t it? I think the U.S. is going through a food renaissance now, however–the Slow Food movement, a return to local and seasonal eating (good for you, good for the environment), farmers markets and artisanal foods such as breads, cheeses, wines available everywhere, etc. I just finished Barbara Kingsolver’s book Animal, Vegetable, Miracle, and I think this illustrates the trends very well, and in a non-preachy way. People are not just concerned with the nutritional value of the foods they are eating, but the environmental impact of the agricultural practices of the U.S.
Anyway, when I was a kid my mom used to make jello with little bits of fruit in it, but we never had anything with marshmallows. However, I know people whose Thanksgiving dinner used to include a candied yam dish topped with marshmallows. Yuck!
Comment by gentle reader — July 22, 2007 @ 7:37 pm |
Gentle reader – oh I am sure that there’s lovely food to be had in the States. And a return to seasonal eating and fresh produce can only be good for all of us. I’ve heard about that Kingsolver book but not yet seen it to look at for myself. I have actually heard of a marshmallow Thanksgiving dish but I can’t remember where. I have a feeling it must have been in Nancy Drew mysteries or something!
Comment by litlove — July 22, 2007 @ 9:50 pm |
Sometimes it’s so good to have missed out on things and this lot sounds like a lucky escape. On the other hand if some people didn’t have the joys of such recipes we couldn’t feel so good about what we missed!
Comment by Bookboxed — July 22, 2007 @ 10:26 pm |
Oh, I hope you don’t think I was offended–there is lovely food here and truly terrible food here! But it did get me thinking about food folkways, and I remembered that I actually own a cookbook called “White Trash Cooking”, which was written, only partly tongue-in-cheek, by a guy from near where my mother grew up in northern Florida. And not only does it have recipes for weird jello salads, it also talks about ways to prepare wild game like squirrels and turtles–yikes! There’s another hilarious kitschy cookbook called “Are You Hungry Tonight?”, which supposedly contains Elvis Presley’s favorite foods, and includes deep-fried candy bars and ham prepared with Coca-cola. And I’m also reminded of Garrison Keillor’s radio program (A Prairie Home Companion), and his books (Lake Wobegon Days), where he describes the casseroles and old-time foods of the rural midwest with a lot of love and humor.
Well, that marshmallow yam thing might be something you read about in Nancy Drew–I used to have the Nancy Drew Cookbook, if you can believe it, and I bet it would be in there. I’m going to ask my mom to see if it’s still on my bookshelf at her house…
Comment by gentle reader — July 22, 2007 @ 10:40 pm |
Alas, I am an aspic addict! Maybe that is why I have begun to wobble. One of our family recipes is very much a “meat and fruit” meal. It is a pleasant, mild curry.
I love reading through cookery books with the caveat that I do seem to add several Kilos even without testing the recipes. Books on historical cookery are fun, providing I am not expected to eat most of the food described although my mind is drawn back to a BBC TV series from the past which recreated a number of those medieval dishes.
Comment by archiearchive — July 23, 2007 @ 5:54 am |
The oddest food I have ever eaten was in Hungary, when I was served “Fried Comb of Rooster”. Literally the rooster’s comb, fried in batter. It looked and tasted like a Marigold glove.
The worst food my (Israeli) boyfriend has ever tasted is British “hummus”, from Tesco or Sainsbury’s. This lumpy stuff truly is horrid and bears about as much resemblance to the real thing as a pack of Tesco own-brand-minimum-2%-fish fish fingers does to a freshly caught, expertly prepared salmon. We have whole restaurants here devoted solely to different types of hummus.
Comment by isralit — July 23, 2007 @ 7:11 am |
This sounds like a great book! I loved Nigel Slater’s Toast, an autobiography and a book about food history combined. I agree about American breakfasts — pancakes with lashings of maple syrup — ummm. Something I wouldn’t dream of eating for breakfast at home. You may be right about the body clock thing!
Comment by Harriet — July 23, 2007 @ 9:37 am |
The first month I was living in Switzerland my husband and I were invited back to his family’s home region for the St. Martin festival, something that should have been called The Festival of the Pig. I made the dreadful mistake of asking to skim through a traditional recipe book, just to see what I might be eating during this “festival”…I can handle blood sausage and I love pâté, but when snout and tail start entering the equation I get rather squeamish.
The book you mention sounds lovely!
Comment by verbivore — July 23, 2007 @ 12:00 pm |
I’ve inherited cookbooks from my mom from the era where marshmallows and Jello were practically an American staple. For some reason gelatinized products were taking over American dinner tables, I believe marshmallows are basically gelatinized sugar and corn syrup. It might be interesting to find out why gelatin was so prominent in the 50s. Thankfully, Julia Child came back from France and taught people how to roast a chicken again and American cuisine improved. Regionally our country has some amazing food, but be prepared for grease and bacon and other tests for iron stomachs. Still, we just don’t know how to eat like the French, but then, does anybody?
Comment by Ian — July 23, 2007 @ 2:23 pm |
I had to laugh at the salad dressings thing; in Russia, they don’t have salad dressing the way that we do (for that matter, they don’t really have salads the way that we do-they tend to be what we call spreads) and they love mayonaise. I tried to explain an American salad once, and I just failed utterly. I couldn’t really explain lettuce, so you know that after that things are going down hill.
Fortunately, southern Russia has a strong Caucaus (esp. Armenian) influence on their food (in north Russia, black pepper is considered spicy), so they had lots of great dishes. However, when I first got back to the States, I went straight for a glorious, leafy green salad.
I lived in England for seven years growing up, and I really miss jacket potatoes. That, and plentiful Indian food. I think that Indian food is to Britain what Mexican food is to America, you know?
Comment by Eva — July 23, 2007 @ 4:06 pm |
Oh, and I completely forgot that my original point in coming over here was to ask…
Who is Elizabeth Hardwick? Is she a critic a la Dirda, or something else entirely?
Comment by Eva — July 23, 2007 @ 4:08 pm |
I don’t know many Americans who haven’t had some form of Jello with marshmallows at some point in their lives, or at least Jello with fruit in it. Funny thing, though: the one woman we could always count on to bring that to any party my parents had was actually English (maybe she thought it’s what all Americans liked). This book sounds like great fun.
Comment by Emily Barton — July 23, 2007 @ 4:30 pm |
We were recently surprised by our local Chinese takeout place. We opened the food and found a container of watermelon (I think) jello, which we most definitely had not ordered. It was the last thing we expected to find! And I have fond memories of “fluff,” a midwestern fruit salad-type dish. I shudder to think of it now, and I dare not ask too much about it, as I’ve regretted doing so with other dishes in the past….
Comment by Sarah — July 23, 2007 @ 5:05 pm |
What a fun book! I was laughing about your surprise over the marshmallows. I think it is a midwestern thing. Even though I grew up in California my parents were from the midwest and salad always had marshmallows in it. I never had a proper green salad unless we went out to eat at a restaurant. Jello salad was one of my mom’s specialites. This was in the 70s. Another midwest culinary specialty is hot dish which is bascially a casserole but everything gets tossed into the dish together and then a can of Campbell’s cream of mushroom soup is poured over it and then about half a pound of cheddar cheese is piled on top and the whole thing is baked in the oven. My mom, bless her, never made this. So I have not had the pleasure of trying it as it is not a vegan dish. Can’t say that I am sad about it either.
Comment by Stefanie — July 23, 2007 @ 6:37 pm |
I’ve had a jello salad with marshmallows or two in my day … but with lettuce and mayonnaise? Ick.
Comment by Dorothy W. — July 23, 2007 @ 7:24 pm |
Bookboxed – I know what you mean! Though I figure that every nation’s cuisine has a dark disk lurking in it somewhere. Tripe, anyone? Gentle reader – Oh not at all – you are far too nice to take offence! The squirrels and turtles however, are horrific, and fortunately I cannot think anyone would really eat one unless in completely dire straits. I will confess to you that I have baked a chocolate cake with coca-cola and it was actually pretty nice! And the thought of a Nancy Drew cookbook is sheer delight. I am so hoping the marshmallow yam recipe is in it! Archie – curry with fruit I can quite understand, but I’m laughing still about you wobbling and putting on weight while reading recipes! Isralit – LOL about eating marigold gloves! (although I imagine this is only funny in retrospect). I can quite believe it about hummus. I do eat it because it fits well into my diet, but I would love to try the real thing. Harriet – I have a theory that food tastes best in the country it comes from. Duck and runny cheese is much better in France than here, and bacon, hash brownies, waffles and maple syrup never tastes right outside America. You remind me that I must read Toast! Verbivore – I would have been very squeamish too!! I can’t decide whether or not it’s better to know what you are eating. Being told afterwards is no improvement. Ian – trust me, there is much food in France that tests the most iron constitution! This jello thing is cracking me up; it’s so amusing! And it is at least easy to digest…. Eva – you’re quite right about Indian food in the UK, and jacket potatoes are a staple of my family’s diet. I did laugh about the impossibility of explaining salad to Russians – I can quite see the difficulty! And yes, Elizabeth Hardwick is a novelist and critic, recommended by Stefanie at So Many Books. She sounds wonderful, and I will let you know what she’s like as soon as her books arrive with me. Emily – as Alice Thomas Ellis suggests, the Brits are no strangers to jelly! I can absolutely understand it with fruit; it’s the mayonnaise element that gets to me. And the book certainly is a lot of fun; I do recommend it. Sarah – LOL! Best to keep the memories and lose the recipe! Watermelon jello is a VERY strange foodstuff to take away from the Chinese – how very amusing! Stefanie – I cannot get over these marshmallows in salads! That casserole sounds incredible, too. I can just about get my head around the soup and the cheese, but the thought of what it might be covering makes my head (and stomach) turn! Dorothy – LOL! Ick is exactly what I thought!
Comment by litlove — July 23, 2007 @ 9:02 pm |
I always enjoy reading your blog – one never knows what to expect, except that it will be informative,interesting and full of things to think about during the days to follow. I’ve been out of the States for years now, and hardly think of the food anymore execpt for the mounds of mashed potatoes and gravy that used to come with everything in the lunchonettes (hard to come by here in Tokyo). I don’t remember marshmallows in salads, but it doesn’t sound bad compared with some things I’ve eaten during my travels over the years.
Just now my life is crazy-busy, with few opportunities for any extensive reading of my favorite blogs, but I still get to read on the trains while commuting. I want to thank you for your interesting comments on Maureen Corrigan’s book Leave Me Alone, I’m Reading. Thanks to your recommendation, I ordered the book from Amazon and am thouroghly enjoying it. Like many others, I’m also looking forward to your own book, too.
Comment by Del — July 24, 2007 @ 1:54 pm |
What a lovely comment, Del! I’m delighted to see you whenever you can drop by. I can see I need to get a move on with this book! I’ll always respond to the requests of my favourite readers.
Comment by litlove — July 24, 2007 @ 10:10 pm |
I’ve lived in the states my entire life, and I’ve never seen, nor even heard of, putting marshmallows on salads. In fact, I don’t eat marshmallows or Jello at all, because they’re frightening in texture, bland in taste and made out of disgusting leftover parts of animals.
And I also make my own salad dressing. Commercial dressings are thick, sticky, full of sugar and preservatives, and unpalatable.
In fact, I know that my diet is different from most Americans in that most of us do eat a lot of frozen, microwavable meals, and buy a lot of processed products and snack foods. I can’t have MSG, and I have so many food allergies that I eat very simple meals, made from scratch with fresh (as often as possible organic) foods.
Comment by Dew — July 25, 2007 @ 4:29 pm |